I bought these trousers with the jacket at the motorbike show last year, and they are so comfortable. Like the jacket, they have a little bit of stretch, which make a big difference. I've not had to wear any waterproofs over the top, since I bought these. The photos don't do them justice, you really need to try them on. As i mentioned in my review of the jacket, the colour scheme didn't really grab me, but apart from that, I love them. No standing at the road side, trying to put waterproofs on in the rain, which also means, 1 less layer to battle with when you need to use the toilet! With a base layer beneath I've worn them all winter and It's been fine. The pockets for the knee armour are adjustable so you can position the armour higher or lower as necessary. (it's just a velcro patch but very effective) I haver the jacket and trousers and I'm incredibly pleased with them.